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		<title>Comment on I just wanted to read my newspaper. by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, 

thanks for the kind words about my sometimes on again/sometimes off again blog. Everything depends on whether I find freelance work or not and whether something has pulled my chain.

About &quot;said on&quot; or &quot;said&quot;: In newspapers (at least in the U.S.) journalists are taught to omit that &quot;on&quot; as unnecessary. Also, the first part of the Ws will be the most important. Here it&#039;s the star and its satellites not the researchers. Here endeth the Journalism 101 lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, </p>
<p>thanks for the kind words about my sometimes on again/sometimes off again blog. Everything depends on whether I find freelance work or not and whether something has pulled my chain.</p>
<p>About &#8220;said on&#8221; or &#8220;said&#8221;: In newspapers (at least in the U.S.) journalists are taught to omit that &#8220;on&#8221; as unnecessary. Also, the first part of the Ws will be the most important. Here it&#8217;s the star and its satellites not the researchers. Here endeth the Journalism 101 lesson.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I just wanted to read my newspaper. by Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=422&#038;cpage=1#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Intriguingly, both orbit the same star, a dwarf 20 light-years from Earth called Gliese 581, European researchers said Tuesday.” So, what does “intriguingly” modify?

Kill that offending adverb, and the sentence is just fine.

I love this blog and share your horror at some of the outrageous misuses of English that you highlight.  I would have to disagree with the above sentence being &quot;just fine&quot; without &quot;intriguingly&quot;.

European researchers said on Tuesday, surely.  For my part I would probably have preferred to start with &quot;European researchers said on Tuesday that...&quot;, although that may not have been appropriate in context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Intriguingly, both orbit the same star, a dwarf 20 light-years from Earth called Gliese 581, European researchers said Tuesday.” So, what does “intriguingly” modify?</p>
<p>Kill that offending adverb, and the sentence is just fine.</p>
<p>I love this blog and share your horror at some of the outrageous misuses of English that you highlight.  I would have to disagree with the above sentence being &#8220;just fine&#8221; without &#8220;intriguingly&#8221;.</p>
<p>European researchers said on Tuesday, surely.  For my part I would probably have preferred to start with &#8220;European researchers said on Tuesday that&#8230;&#8221;, although that may not have been appropriate in context.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Me/I by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Steve, honey, if I weren&#039;t related to you and didn&#039;t know your sense of humor so well (too well), my heart would break. I&#039;d also have a headrush that would put me in the hospital with a coma (or comma, as the case may be).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Steve, honey, if I weren&#8217;t related to you and didn&#8217;t know your sense of humor so well (too well), my heart would break. I&#8217;d also have a headrush that would put me in the hospital with a coma (or comma, as the case may be).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Me/I by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I beg to differ!  What about, &quot;Me so happy, me want to cry?&quot;  Nuthin&#039; wrong there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I beg to differ!  What about, &#8220;Me so happy, me want to cry?&#8221;  Nuthin&#8217; wrong there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who&#8217;s/Whose by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=575&#038;cpage=1#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi BP,

Everyone is always welcome even if he got here by mistake. And thanks for thinking it&#039;s interesting. My passion, everyone else&#039;s snore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi BP,</p>
<p>Everyone is always welcome even if he got here by mistake. And thanks for thinking it&#8217;s interesting. My passion, everyone else&#8217;s snore.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who&#8217;s/Whose by roofer somerset</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=575&#038;cpage=1#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>roofer somerset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops was doing a google search for roofing and came across this post. Not exactly what I was searching for but much more interesting lol! Oh well, gotta get back to work...thanks, bp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops was doing a google search for roofing and came across this post. Not exactly what I was searching for but much more interesting lol! Oh well, gotta get back to work&#8230;thanks, bp</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who&#8217;s/Whose by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precisely.

ESL students I can forgive since English is so unforgiving, but the person who was born here.... I&#039;d like to think he/she knows better. I live and dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely.</p>
<p>ESL students I can forgive since English is so unforgiving, but the person who was born here&#8230;. I&#8217;d like to think he/she knows better. I live and dream.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who&#8217;s/Whose by Nick Hobson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Hobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the jobs of the apostrophe, as you say, is to indicate a letter or letters are missing.  But another job, more relevant in the context of &quot;who&#039;s&quot; vs. &quot;whose&quot;, is to indicate possession, as in &quot;cat&#039;s cradle&quot;.

Alas, while nouns and proper names indicate possession with &quot;&#039;s&quot;, many pronouns are irregular!  Compare and contrast:

The roof belonging to the house = The house&#039;s roof
The roof belonging to it = Its roof

Students of English as a second language must love this irregularity!  Surely &quot;it&#039;s roof&quot; would be more consistent and make more sense?  Similarly, we have:

This coat belongs to Mary? = Is this Mary&#039;s coat?
This coat belongs to who? = Whose coat is this?

Again, the student of English as a second language must wonder why we do not say, &quot;Who&#039;s coat is this?&quot;

Of course, English wouldn&#039;t be any fun if it were completely regular!  But maybe the above irregularities are part of the reason for the common confusion between &quot;it&#039;s&quot; and &quot;its&quot;, and &quot;who&#039;s&quot; and &quot;whose&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the jobs of the apostrophe, as you say, is to indicate a letter or letters are missing.  But another job, more relevant in the context of &#8220;who&#8217;s&#8221; vs. &#8220;whose&#8221;, is to indicate possession, as in &#8220;cat&#8217;s cradle&#8221;.</p>
<p>Alas, while nouns and proper names indicate possession with &#8220;&#8216;s&#8221;, many pronouns are irregular!  Compare and contrast:</p>
<p>The roof belonging to the house = The house&#8217;s roof<br />
The roof belonging to it = Its roof</p>
<p>Students of English as a second language must love this irregularity!  Surely &#8220;it&#8217;s roof&#8221; would be more consistent and make more sense?  Similarly, we have:</p>
<p>This coat belongs to Mary? = Is this Mary&#8217;s coat?<br />
This coat belongs to who? = Whose coat is this?</p>
<p>Again, the student of English as a second language must wonder why we do not say, &#8220;Who&#8217;s coat is this?&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, English wouldn&#8217;t be any fun if it were completely regular!  But maybe the above irregularities are part of the reason for the common confusion between &#8220;it&#8217;s&#8221; and &#8220;its&#8221;, and &#8220;who&#8217;s&#8221; and &#8220;whose&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Could/Couldn&#8217;t Care Less by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, so much to reply to. First, you certainly delve into a subject, don&#039;t you. Remember, my site is about basics (and those sites are not basic although I enjoyed them, but I&#039;m a grammar geek), and for a non-writer or non-English speaker the prescriptive rules are the way to go. 

Next, those sites are all over the place explaining their positions--and going some distance to do so--and go into the subject in way too much depth. So, let&#039;s keep things as simple as possible.

A few thoughts:

The OED doesn&#039;t pass judgment about syntactical correctness; it gives definition and citations.

I think both constructions are grammatical; they just mean different things. 

Both can be uttered sarcastically or not. 

English isn&#039;t French, so the &lt;em&gt;ne...pas &lt;/em&gt;example is bogus. 

Yes, the problem probably does have to do with the negativity. 

There are prescriptive rules for a reason: ease of communication when writing. Spoken communication is more forgiving of grammatical and language errors because it&#039;s accompanied by vocal and facial expressions and human kindness (not necessarily mine--at least in my head). 

And still, &quot;could care less&quot; drives me crazy.

Finally, I never, ever saw a prescriptive rule that forbade ending a sentence with a preposition. Some language dunderhead in our dim past forced this nonexistent rule on language arts teachers, and we&#039;ve carried it forward. (Well, not me.)

And another finally, sometimes it&#039;s all right to split an infinitive, but sometimes the sentence reads better when it isn&#039;t split. One does have to develop a  prosodic ear. I would certainly hope that all people who are copy editors, etc. have that ear or learn it. Otherwise, you&#039;re all in for a heap more of my kvetching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, so much to reply to. First, you certainly delve into a subject, don&#8217;t you. Remember, my site is about basics (and those sites are not basic although I enjoyed them, but I&#8217;m a grammar geek), and for a non-writer or non-English speaker the prescriptive rules are the way to go. </p>
<p>Next, those sites are all over the place explaining their positions&#8211;and going some distance to do so&#8211;and go into the subject in way too much depth. So, let&#8217;s keep things as simple as possible.</p>
<p>A few thoughts:</p>
<p>The OED doesn&#8217;t pass judgment about syntactical correctness; it gives definition and citations.</p>
<p>I think both constructions are grammatical; they just mean different things. </p>
<p>Both can be uttered sarcastically or not. </p>
<p>English isn&#8217;t French, so the <em>ne&#8230;pas </em>example is bogus. </p>
<p>Yes, the problem probably does have to do with the negativity. </p>
<p>There are prescriptive rules for a reason: ease of communication when writing. Spoken communication is more forgiving of grammatical and language errors because it&#8217;s accompanied by vocal and facial expressions and human kindness (not necessarily mine&#8211;at least in my head). </p>
<p>And still, &#8220;could care less&#8221; drives me crazy.</p>
<p>Finally, I never, ever saw a prescriptive rule that forbade ending a sentence with a preposition. Some language dunderhead in our dim past forced this nonexistent rule on language arts teachers, and we&#8217;ve carried it forward. (Well, not me.)</p>
<p>And another finally, sometimes it&#8217;s all right to split an infinitive, but sometimes the sentence reads better when it isn&#8217;t split. One does have to develop a  prosodic ear. I would certainly hope that all people who are copy editors, etc. have that ear or learn it. Otherwise, you&#8217;re all in for a heap more of my kvetching.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Could/Couldn&#8217;t Care Less by Nick Hobson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Hobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never use &quot;could care less&quot;, but it is listed in the OED, which gives sense 4 of &quot;care&quot; as:

4. In negative and conditional construction: a. not to care passes from the notion of ‘not to trouble oneself’, to those of ‘not to mind, not to regard or pay any deference or attention, to pay no respect, be indifferent’.

and then among the various subtypes listed (e.g. care a button or a fig) comes eventually to the specific phrase in question,

(c) Colloq. phr. (I, etc.) couldn&#039;t care less: (I am, etc.) completely uninterested, utterly indifferent; freq. as phr. used attrib. Hence couldn&#039;t-care-less-ness.

for which the earliest citation is from 1946, and then gives an explicit listing to the unnegated form:

(d) U.S. colloq. phr. (I, etc.) could care less = sense (c) above, with omission of negative.

1966 Seattle Post-Intelligencer 1 Nov. 21/2 My husband is a lethargic, indecisive guy who drifts along from day to day. If a bill doesn&#039;t get paid he could care less.
1973 Washington Post 5 Jan. B1/1 A few crusty-souled Republican senators who could care less about symbolic rewards.
1978 J. CARROLL Mortal Friends III. iii. 281 ‘I hate sneaking past your servants in the morning.’ ‘They know, anyway. They could care less. Thornton mistreats them horribly.’

See http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/001182.html

So the OED specifically states that &quot;could care less&quot; has the same meaning as &quot;couldn&#039;t care less&quot;.

With the advent of digital newspaper databases, &quot;could care less&quot; has now been dated back to 1955; see http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/002063.html

I&#039;ve seen various accounts of how the phrase arose and how it could indeed mean the same as its apparent negation, &quot;couldn&#039;t care less&quot;.  One theory is that &quot;I could care less&quot; is short for &quot;I could care less, but I&#039;d have to try&quot;, and occasionally I&#039;ve heard it said with exactly the right intonation to suggest that.  See http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/mifcouldcareless.shtml  Another is John Lawlor&#039;s idea that &quot;could care less&quot; is an example of a Negative Polarity Item.  See http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/giveadamn.html  Steven Pinker argues that the usage is sarcastic: http://camba.ucsd.edu/files/misc/ll/grammar_puss.html ; others disagree: http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/001256.html

I think &quot;could care less&quot; and &quot;couldn&#039;t care less&quot; are both grammatically correct, but colloquial idioms.  Best avoided in formal writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never use &#8220;could care less&#8221;, but it is listed in the OED, which gives sense 4 of &#8220;care&#8221; as:</p>
<p>4. In negative and conditional construction: a. not to care passes from the notion of ‘not to trouble oneself’, to those of ‘not to mind, not to regard or pay any deference or attention, to pay no respect, be indifferent’.</p>
<p>and then among the various subtypes listed (e.g. care a button or a fig) comes eventually to the specific phrase in question,</p>
<p>(c) Colloq. phr. (I, etc.) couldn&#8217;t care less: (I am, etc.) completely uninterested, utterly indifferent; freq. as phr. used attrib. Hence couldn&#8217;t-care-less-ness.</p>
<p>for which the earliest citation is from 1946, and then gives an explicit listing to the unnegated form:</p>
<p>(d) U.S. colloq. phr. (I, etc.) could care less = sense (c) above, with omission of negative.</p>
<p>1966 Seattle Post-Intelligencer 1 Nov. 21/2 My husband is a lethargic, indecisive guy who drifts along from day to day. If a bill doesn&#8217;t get paid he could care less.<br />
1973 Washington Post 5 Jan. B1/1 A few crusty-souled Republican senators who could care less about symbolic rewards.<br />
1978 J. CARROLL Mortal Friends III. iii. 281 ‘I hate sneaking past your servants in the morning.’ ‘They know, anyway. They could care less. Thornton mistreats them horribly.’</p>
<p>See <a href="http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/001182.html" rel="nofollow">http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/001182.html</a></p>
<p>So the OED specifically states that &#8220;could care less&#8221; has the same meaning as &#8220;couldn&#8217;t care less&#8221;.</p>
<p>With the advent of digital newspaper databases, &#8220;could care less&#8221; has now been dated back to 1955; see <a href="http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/002063.html" rel="nofollow">http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/002063.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen various accounts of how the phrase arose and how it could indeed mean the same as its apparent negation, &#8220;couldn&#8217;t care less&#8221;.  One theory is that &#8220;I could care less&#8221; is short for &#8220;I could care less, but I&#8217;d have to try&#8221;, and occasionally I&#8217;ve heard it said with exactly the right intonation to suggest that.  See <a href="http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/mifcouldcareless.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/mifcouldcareless.shtml</a>  Another is John Lawlor&#8217;s idea that &#8220;could care less&#8221; is an example of a Negative Polarity Item.  See <a href="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/giveadamn.html" rel="nofollow">http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/giveadamn.html</a>  Steven Pinker argues that the usage is sarcastic: <a href="http://camba.ucsd.edu/files/misc/ll/grammar_puss.html" rel="nofollow">http://camba.ucsd.edu/files/misc/ll/grammar_puss.html</a> ; others disagree: <a href="http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/001256.html" rel="nofollow">http://158.130.17.5/~myl/languagelog/archives/001256.html</a></p>
<p>I think &#8220;could care less&#8221; and &#8220;couldn&#8217;t care less&#8221; are both grammatically correct, but colloquial idioms.  Best avoided in formal writing!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Poser by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Nick, I think this may be as close as we&#039;re bound to get. I love the word retronym, very musical. However, reduplicative or clone or double is probably closer to the description although the word reduplicative reverberates in the brain until I have a headache.

Nevertheless, even though a reduplicative requires heavier stress on the first word and my examples don&#039;t have that, reduplicative it is. Actually, in my examples the words are said in different tones, starting on a higher note. There (higher note), there (lower note). 

Still, it&#039;s an interesting little hiccup in our language, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Nick, I think this may be as close as we&#8217;re bound to get. I love the word retronym, very musical. However, reduplicative or clone or double is probably closer to the description although the word reduplicative reverberates in the brain until I have a headache.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, even though a reduplicative requires heavier stress on the first word and my examples don&#8217;t have that, reduplicative it is. Actually, in my examples the words are said in different tones, starting on a higher note. There (higher note), there (lower note). </p>
<p>Still, it&#8217;s an interesting little hiccup in our language, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Poser by Nick Hobson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Hobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting question!  I didn&#039;t know the answer, but I found this page -- http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-ret1.htm -- on Michael Quinion&#039;s excellent site, which says, “These repeated terms are sometimes called doubles or clones, or, if you want to be really academic about it, reduplicatives.”

This page -- http://www.dailywritingtips.com/reduplicatives-and-their-meanings/ -- distinguishes between “repeating reduplicatives” (such as those you mention), “rhyming reduplicatives” (such as “mumbo jumbo”), and “vowel change reduplicatives” (such as “tick tock”).  I don&#039;t have my dictionaries at hand to check, but Online Merriam-Webster seems to support this usage; i.e., that “reduplicative” on its own does not necessarily imply repetition.

By the way, the Brits say, “Hear, hear,” when they applaud something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting question!  I didn&#8217;t know the answer, but I found this page &#8212; <a href="http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-ret1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-ret1.htm</a> &#8212; on Michael Quinion&#8217;s excellent site, which says, “These repeated terms are sometimes called doubles or clones, or, if you want to be really academic about it, reduplicatives.”</p>
<p>This page &#8212; <a href="http://www.dailywritingtips.com/reduplicatives-and-their-meanings/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailywritingtips.com/reduplicatives-and-their-meanings/</a> &#8212; distinguishes between “repeating reduplicatives” (such as those you mention), “rhyming reduplicatives” (such as “mumbo jumbo”), and “vowel change reduplicatives” (such as “tick tock”).  I don&#8217;t have my dictionaries at hand to check, but Online Merriam-Webster seems to support this usage; i.e., that “reduplicative” on its own does not necessarily imply repetition.</p>
<p>By the way, the Brits say, “Hear, hear,” when they applaud something.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Imlay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The passive voice generally slows the reader down. Journalists are taught in J-school to eliminate it wherever possible. That doesn&#039;t mean eliminating it altogether, but rather knowing when and how to use it more effectively. In my career I&#039;ve proofed a lot of papers for academics -- they do seem to love their passive voice and apparently think it makes them sound smarter. It just makes my eyes glaze over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The passive voice generally slows the reader down. Journalists are taught in J-school to eliminate it wherever possible. That doesn&#8217;t mean eliminating it altogether, but rather knowing when and how to use it more effectively. In my career I&#8217;ve proofed a lot of papers for academics &#8212; they do seem to love their passive voice and apparently think it makes them sound smarter. It just makes my eyes glaze over.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Writing Tip by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=451&#038;cpage=1#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Nick, I did use the passive voice. Sometimes the passive is all right. In this case I felt it was better than having &quot;the Syntax and Style pages&quot; as the subject. As I&#039;m sure you know in English nothing is hard and fast; it&#039;s a slippery, treacherous language. 

BTW, my &quot;silly proscription&quot; is not silly. Have you ever read a dissertation? Full of passive voice and b-o-r-i-n-g. Furthermore, I make no pretense that my pages are the complete grammar book. 

Finally, I think it odd that you&#039;re searching the Web to play &quot;gotcha&quot; rather than spending your time more productively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Nick, I did use the passive voice. Sometimes the passive is all right. In this case I felt it was better than having &#8220;the Syntax and Style pages&#8221; as the subject. As I&#8217;m sure you know in English nothing is hard and fast; it&#8217;s a slippery, treacherous language. </p>
<p>BTW, my &#8220;silly proscription&#8221; is not silly. Have you ever read a dissertation? Full of passive voice and b-o-r-i-n-g. Furthermore, I make no pretense that my pages are the complete grammar book. </p>
<p>Finally, I think it odd that you&#8217;re searching the Web to play &#8220;gotcha&#8221; rather than spending your time more productively.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Writing Tip by Nick Hobson</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=451&#038;cpage=1#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Hobson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The passive voice is explained in detail in the Syntax and Style pages.&quot;

Congratulations!  In the above sentence you have:
(a) flouted your own silly proscription of the passive voice,
(b) demonstrated that your rules for identifying the passive voice are incomplete, and
(c) used the passive voice to improve emphasis and cohesion, its main function in the language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The passive voice is explained in detail in the Syntax and Style pages.&#8221;</p>
<p>Congratulations!  In the above sentence you have:<br />
(a) flouted your own silly proscription of the passive voice,<br />
(b) demonstrated that your rules for identifying the passive voice are incomplete, and<br />
(c) used the passive voice to improve emphasis and cohesion, its main function in the language.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Had Better/Had Best by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=437&#038;cpage=1#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 14:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a creepy, crawly thing. I&#039;m your glorious, magnificent and radiant ahhhhnt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a creepy, crawly thing. I&#8217;m your glorious, magnificent and radiant ahhhhnt.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Had Better/Had Best by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 21:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  You&#039;re my favorite aunt (pronounced &quot;ant&quot;).</description>
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		<title>Comment on Had Better/Had Best by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=437&#038;cpage=1#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 16:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Your brother isn&#039;t an idiom either. He&#039;s your baby brother (middle-aged farts though you may be), and you&#039;re supposed to love him and protect him and support him. 

2. Your mother would never kill you, so let me rewrite the sentence since you take it so personally. &quot;I&#039;d better get home before my loving, kind and decent mother gets worried.&quot;

3. Yes, your grandmother is a dog with bone over this one. I think if you asked her, she could even tell when to use as/as if/like and why. As/asif/like will be coming soon. Look for it in a blog near you.

4. Your sentence is correct because &quot;surprisingly&quot; modifies the verb &quot;am.&quot; (And don&#039;t exaggerate; you&#039;re worth maybe $1.50.) Yes, it sounds right to you because it&#039;s so common. Who cares. It&#039;s still not right. The adverb&#039;s job is to modify, limit, describe verbs, adjectives or other adverbs. If there are none (none is a collective noun) of these things around in the sentence, then it&#039;s just slowly twisting in the wind. Then, we in the know call it a misplaced modifier. 

5. There is no rule, I repeat, no rule that says sentences can&#039;t end in prepositions, which means they can. I know your language arts teachers drilled it into your head, and that&#039;s because it was drilled into theirs. This lousy intepretation of grammar has been perpetuated for generations. If the sentence reads best with a preposition at the end, then the sentence is correct. Why twist yourself into a pretzel trying not to end the sentence with a preposition.

6. Not yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Your brother isn&#8217;t an idiom either. He&#8217;s your baby brother (middle-aged farts though you may be), and you&#8217;re supposed to love him and protect him and support him. </p>
<p>2. Your mother would never kill you, so let me rewrite the sentence since you take it so personally. &#8220;I&#8217;d better get home before my loving, kind and decent mother gets worried.&#8221;</p>
<p>3. Yes, your grandmother is a dog with bone over this one. I think if you asked her, she could even tell when to use as/as if/like and why. As/asif/like will be coming soon. Look for it in a blog near you.</p>
<p>4. Your sentence is correct because &#8220;surprisingly&#8221; modifies the verb &#8220;am.&#8221; (And don&#8217;t exaggerate; you&#8217;re worth maybe $1.50.) Yes, it sounds right to you because it&#8217;s so common. Who cares. It&#8217;s still not right. The adverb&#8217;s job is to modify, limit, describe verbs, adjectives or other adverbs. If there are none (none is a collective noun) of these things around in the sentence, then it&#8217;s just slowly twisting in the wind. Then, we in the know call it a misplaced modifier. </p>
<p>5. There is no rule, I repeat, no rule that says sentences can&#8217;t end in prepositions, which means they can. I know your language arts teachers drilled it into your head, and that&#8217;s because it was drilled into theirs. This lousy intepretation of grammar has been perpetuated for generations. If the sentence reads best with a preposition at the end, then the sentence is correct. Why twist yourself into a pretzel trying not to end the sentence with a preposition.</p>
<p>6. Not yet.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Had Better/Had Best by Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=437&#038;cpage=1#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1)  Russell&#039;s an idiom?  OK, well, you&#039;re the expert.  Russell&#039;s an idiom.

2)  &quot;I had better get home before my mother kills me.&quot;  Uh, yeah.  Isn&#039;t that the only time I CAN get home?  And, btw, why am I going home where Mom wants to kill me?

3)  &quot;Like I said...&quot;  &quot;As I said...&quot;  I still don&#039;t get it.  I say &quot;As I said&quot; because Nana has shamed me out of saying &quot;Like I said&quot;, but I don&#039;t know why.  Why?

4)  Intriguingly, surprisingly, etc.  I understand what you were saying about &quot;intriguingly&quot; not being used the way it was, but it still sounds right to me.  Is that just because I&#039;m so used to hearing it wrong?  Is it the same situation with &quot;surprisingly?&quot;  Any other words?  &quot;Surprisingly, I&#039;m worth well over $10 million.&quot;  That one seems to be right.  Is it?

5)  I&#039;ve never heard anyone say that a sentence can be ended with a preposition.  Can you always end a sentence with a preposition?  Are there exceptions?

6)  Are you sorry yet that you gave me the link to your blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1)  Russell&#8217;s an idiom?  OK, well, you&#8217;re the expert.  Russell&#8217;s an idiom.</p>
<p>2)  &#8220;I had better get home before my mother kills me.&#8221;  Uh, yeah.  Isn&#8217;t that the only time I CAN get home?  And, btw, why am I going home where Mom wants to kill me?</p>
<p>3)  &#8220;Like I said&#8230;&#8221;  &#8220;As I said&#8230;&#8221;  I still don&#8217;t get it.  I say &#8220;As I said&#8221; because Nana has shamed me out of saying &#8220;Like I said&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t know why.  Why?</p>
<p>4)  Intriguingly, surprisingly, etc.  I understand what you were saying about &#8220;intriguingly&#8221; not being used the way it was, but it still sounds right to me.  Is that just because I&#8217;m so used to hearing it wrong?  Is it the same situation with &#8220;surprisingly?&#8221;  Any other words?  &#8220;Surprisingly, I&#8217;m worth well over $10 million.&#8221;  That one seems to be right.  Is it?</p>
<p>5)  I&#8217;ve never heard anyone say that a sentence can be ended with a preposition.  Can you always end a sentence with a preposition?  Are there exceptions?</p>
<p>6)  Are you sorry yet that you gave me the link to your blog?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Exercise by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=426&#038;cpage=1#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called a collective noun. Sometimes it&#039;s plural, and sometimes it ain&#039;t. It depends. It&#039;s plural if the group acts as individuals, and it&#039;s plural if the group acts as one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called a collective noun. Sometimes it&#8217;s plural, and sometimes it ain&#8217;t. It depends. It&#8217;s plural if the group acts as individuals, and it&#8217;s plural if the group acts as one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Exercise by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  I&#039;ve wondered from time to time, although I haven&#039;t lost any sleep over it, about nouns that appear to be singular but actually represent a plural.  &quot;There were a bunch more typos.&quot;  Bunch.  Group.  A lot.  OK, I&#039;m drawing a blank, but I&#039;m sure there are a lot (there you go) more.  A bunch of us are going...  A group of us is/are going (I would say &quot;is&quot;)...  A lot of us are going...  Willing to blog about it? (Yikes, incomplete sentence)

I&#039;m afraid to open my mouth any more, or my fingers, in this case.  And the commas...I still don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  I&#8217;ve wondered from time to time, although I haven&#8217;t lost any sleep over it, about nouns that appear to be singular but actually represent a plural.  &#8220;There were a bunch more typos.&#8221;  Bunch.  Group.  A lot.  OK, I&#8217;m drawing a blank, but I&#8217;m sure there are a lot (there you go) more.  A bunch of us are going&#8230;  A group of us is/are going (I would say &#8220;is&#8221;)&#8230;  A lot of us are going&#8230;  Willing to blog about it? (Yikes, incomplete sentence)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid to open my mouth any more, or my fingers, in this case.  And the commas&#8230;I still don&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Between Who??? by admin</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=407&#038;cpage=1#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not websight because it has nothing to do with seeing. It&#039;s a site, a place. MA is a good place to be FROM is not a grammatical error. It&#039;s all right to end a sentence with a preposition. There&#039;s no rule anywhere that says so. It&#039;s only in grade and high school teachers&#039; minds. That is, if they teach language arts, if they were taught language arts, and so on going into the dim, dark past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not websight because it has nothing to do with seeing. It&#8217;s a site, a place. MA is a good place to be FROM is not a grammatical error. It&#8217;s all right to end a sentence with a preposition. There&#8217;s no rule anywhere that says so. It&#8217;s only in grade and high school teachers&#8217; minds. That is, if they teach language arts, if they were taught language arts, and so on going into the dim, dark past.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Between Who??? by Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=407&#038;cpage=1#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your nephew thanks you.  He also wants you to know that he makes a daily visit to this website (Why isn&#039;t it websight?  I&#039;ll need an answer by Monday, please.) now.  It&#039;s a good&#039;n.  Actually, he&#039;s just hoping to catch you making a grammatical error of your own, as in, &quot;MA is a great place to be FROM.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your nephew thanks you.  He also wants you to know that he makes a daily visit to this website (Why isn&#8217;t it websight?  I&#8217;ll need an answer by Monday, please.) now.  It&#8217;s a good&#8217;n.  Actually, he&#8217;s just hoping to catch you making a grammatical error of your own, as in, &#8220;MA is a great place to be FROM.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome to Prose Parade by Pat Larson</title>
		<link>http://www.proseparade.com/?p=9&#038;cpage=1#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many greetings!  
  Your Prose Parade is wonderful!!  Helpful AND humorous!

                Many thanks, Pat</description>
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  Your Prose Parade is wonderful!!  Helpful AND humorous!</p>
<p>                Many thanks, Pat</p>
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		<title>Comment on Simple and Simplistic by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do manage to wring it out, don&#039;t you.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Simple and Simplistic by Michael Imlay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Imlay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That explanation is sheer simplicity. Thanks for keeping us from becoming simpletons. (Sorry. Couldn&#039;t resist.) -- MI</description>
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